VTV has attempted to coin Jacque Frescos system under his own creation, “Virtual Anarchism”, and now he has created and employs a new technique called the “philibuster” troll effect. Im sure he meant “filibuster” but he has never stepped foot inside a political science classroom so we must give him some slack for his error. Anyways, the principle of his technique is when a “troll” apparently copies and pastes debunk logic over and over “ad nauseum”. In December, “vagabundus maximus” or VTV, declared that I was employing this tactic. That may be so but he has never presented evidence, so we must just take his word on that:
Instead what we discover today is Neil “coiner of the term virtual anarchism/winner of cult debate” Kiernan is a master practitioner of his very own tactic “Philibuster Troll Effect”. Here we find he copies and pastes the same comment over and over again:
he then repeats it over and over again “ad nauseum”:
At this point, he starts getting people nauseated with his repeated attempts to spam them into compliance:
Now we are certain that VTV is very aware of his tactics, he has named them with odd spelling, and he employs them at will. Im sure VTV will say I entered the Conspiracy Science forums, re-edited his posts to repeat…..no wait, he will say I copied his name and his IP, logged on to CS and starting posting on his behalf utilizing the “Philibuster Troll Effect”. Who knows.
I support efforts to bring the insanity of the Zeitgeist movement to light but the only thing the guys at CS accomplished was to make themselves look like juvenile bullies.
The atmosphere over there is was extremely anti-intellectual and petty. I was very disappointed in their behavior.
I am sure I will receive the same kind of treatment for voicing an objection to their tactics. Flame away.
Jason, I’d like to see you try to have a reasonable disagreement with him.
Unless you are someone with a lot of clout in a public arena, you will quickly realize how much of a dishonest asshole he is.
Your well thought out strategy was to insulted the guy over and over again and by doing so you prove him right, at least in his own mind and in the minds of those people who take him seriously.
If, like you admit, you can’t have a conversation with him, why even bother engaging him at all. There is no reason than I can see other than being insulting. and I’m sorry but that is just petty and weak minded.
By acting like a pack of drunken frat boys you pushed all the idiot followers of that cult further into his camp. In the process you make yourself look silly and immature, even in the eyes of those who support your cause.
Jason, VTV was on their forum all he had to do was leave. Nobody invited him. He has his own forum where he can control/edit/block/ban/beg all he wants, he should have stayed there.
This isn’t my first run in with VTV you know, I suggest you look into some of my interactions with this creep.
http://forum.v-radio.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=124#p340
Got any statistical evidence for this claim or are you just gonna throw beliefs up into the air and hope they land face up?
What we succeeded in actually doing was letting VTV spam and post bullshit on a public forum which can be read by anyone wanting to see what a fucking idiotic fool he is. What we actually have occurring is someone who is willing to engage in the ridiculous and immature kind of behaviour he does and then wants people to take him seriously in a supposedly serious subject matter that “can save the world”.
No Jason VTV is just as much a fucking troll and retard as the rest of us in there, the only difference is we are doing it intentionally he tries to claim hes not. The man is a fucking joke for anyone who is not blinded by cult dogma.
Calling someone fat page after page in a post is just silly and unreasonable. Like I said, I am not defending the guy, his “ideology” or his LARPING.
Its only common sense that when you insult someone and by extension the group they belongs to, it only creates a common enemy that draws them closer together in opposition of. Cults are in part based entirely on the external enemy and in my onion you’ve created one.
Finally, don’t forget that we are on the same side in this battle and that my criticism isn’t personal but rather strategic.
Neil went in this morning and edited our posts to make Matt and I gay for each other. So I decided to do some editing myself. I hope he enjoys.
Gay for each other? I’ve got to see that. Yes, I understand that Vtv is a lying, power hungry dirt bag. I can not and never have disputed that premise.
Personally I despise everything he and the pseudoscience cult he belongs to stands for. Please don’t for one second think I am defending that wind bag.
My only complain was the method of attacking him, which I found petty, harsh and completely unnecessary. The last thing VTV needs to be made is a martyr.
I personally don’t care if the guy is fat, lives in a trailer, dresses up as a an elf , knight or whatever the hell he does on his own time.
Did he write those posts revealing Fuhrer Josephs parents personal information? I’d like to think so and evidence strongly suggest he did but what keeps nagging at me is motivation. What did he have to gain from doing that. Does he mention why he did it in those posts?
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THIS IS ALL GOSSIP, you are not saying anything to disprove the rock solid ideas. Look at information irrespective of the communicator. Your gossip is unfounded, everyone has a bias and all, but this is pure racket. i probably should not feed the troll but whatever, ill feed you some straight truth and hope it reverberates off of you. Regardless of any labels such as TZM/TVP(the labels are irrelevant), the idea of going post scarcity is brilliant. Post scarcity defies all the economic restraints of the past. If necessities are abundant, then there is no need for government or most meaningless jobs. This idea transcends all the bullshit. TZM/TVP is an anarchist organization. There are no leaders. The ideas are what people hold true. Fresco/Joseph are good speakers for the idea. Personally I think my own strain of philosophy transcends theirs, and i think i am also a good speaker for similar post scarcity anarchism. technology can solve problems right now. Alll we need to do as a planet is stop all the bullshit wars put the time and energy and resources from all that negativity and put it towards feeding people and we are close. Post scarcity is already here in regards to food and such,as a planet we produce more than we eat and people are still hungry.
I really don’t care about post-scarcity apocalyptical doomsday scenarios your cult is enthralled with. If you can’t see something is wrong with the cult of Zeitgeist based on the hundreds of posts by Dr Mario, Conspiracy Science Forums, Anticultist, Ronaldo De Los Muertos, Labarum, and others who have taken time out of their day to bring the truth out about Zeitgeist, then I really do not care about your thoughts or opinions regarding the cult of Zeitgeist. You see, I’m not here to convert you from your religion (yes in fact, Zeitgeist LA Chapter Coordinator says Zeitgeist is a religion), instead, this site is for those who already despise your cult and enjoy seeing your religion crumble and in-fight.