Peter Joseph’s Response to “60 Minutes” / Brooklyn Co.Expo [ The Zeitgeist Movement ]   8 comments

Dr Mario posted the video in the comment section of my previous post regarding Zeitgeist Exposed On 60 Minutes Brooklyn College Edition.

Note how Peter the Liar says Zeitgeist Movement began after the first two movies?  Peter Joseph how desperate are you?  It is during the second film that he creates the call to join Zeitgeist Movement.  He must lie to convince people, the Zeitgeist Movement was created in the middle of his beloved conspiracy trilogy during the second film.  Want proof?  This screenshot was taking during Zeitgeist Addendum and proves Zeitgeist Movement was spawned during the second film, not after the film as the cult personality Peter Josephs tries to convince his drones:

Peter Joseph again lies when he says Zeitgeist Movement has nothing to do with religion or 9/11.  He is once again lying because in his own forums, Peter Joseph admits that Zeitgeist the Movie is the core generator of interest for the Zeitgeist Movement!  In fact, if it wasnt for “Zeitgeist the Movie”, “Zeitgeist Movement”, its name and form, would have never existed.  Clearly, Peter Joseph is delivering this video speech to his choir as nobody in their right minds sees Zeitgeist as anything but a conspiracy movie movement.  Peter Joseph admits religion and 9/11 conspiracies prop the movement:

Amazingly, Peter Joseph displays a screenshot of his “functional spirituality” chapter from the “Zeitgeist Orientation Guide”.  This is critical as he is making it clear how in fact religious Zeitgeist truly is.  It is on this page that Peter Joseph preaches to his followers what is divinity and what isnt divinity.  Zeitgeist members hear the gospel of “Science and Technology”, “Science and technology is divinity in action”.  He goes on to say that “science is a tool for functional spirituality”.  On this page, peter Joseph eludes to man being god, when he says the we must save ourselves, “we are the power, nobody is going to save us” adds Peter Joseph in a interview with Mark Dice.  When confronted with the idea about man being God, Peter Josephs responds, “Thats correct, You are God”.

 

“My first film [zeitgeist] has nothing to do with the zeitgeist movement”"-Peter Joseph 

Peter Joseph is so ashamed of his film, perhaps since its completely false and based on lies, that he is making every attempt to convince the audience of a complete disconnect between the film and movement short of changing the name of the movement to “Peter Josephs Fan Club”.

I notice Peter Joseph keeps repeating the same lie that he began the movement after his second film.  This must be a key reason why the movement and movie are related.  If anybody wants to catch Peter Josephs in a constant falsehood, watch Zeitgeist Addendum and fast forward to the end to catch the screenshot I posted above.

I like how Peter Joseph fast forwards thru the “rather long expedition of the first film“.  Peter cannot bare to watch his comical myth of a movie it seems.

“I thought this editorial was about the Zeitgeist Movement, not my personal film series?”- Peter Joseph

This is great stuff Peter Joseph is putting out in his video.  I thank him for the amusement to see him squirm all over the place just as his “followers” have been doing for years, trying to convince everybody and their mother that Zeitgeist Movement has nothing to do with Zeitgeist Movie.  Peter Joseph and the followers have an uphill battle as it is trying to reach out to people to open their eyes to the current social economic paradigm and introduce a new way of life for all mankind, but instead they make themselves look moronic as they try to convince everybody how the films and movement are unrelated.  Thats super scientific, you know, arguing with the media about the relation between the movies and movement created within those movies.
As he mutes over Kathy Olmsted credentials, Peter Joseph lies to the faces of his followers when he says, “I don’t know who this woman is”.  Of course je knows who she is, he is muting over her credentials!  This is how he discredits this person and everything she says afterwards by holding his zeitgeist sheep by the hand and controlling what they hear and don’t hear.

“I don’t know who this woman is or what grand conspiracy shes talking about, but speaking as a film maker for a moment, unrelated to the movement, the first film talks about comparative religion how it developed overtime as origin, and how the political establishment would utilize  religion for their own betterment.  Second part is simply looking at 9/11 from a different angle, the governments story is indeed a conspiracy theory tho no-one will refer to the 9/11 commission report as a conspiracy theory commission report.  And the third part is simply about different elements of corruption that has existed in the history of the United States with no grand conspiracy element to be found”.-Peter Joseph

So his movie is not conspiracy?  Is that what he is trying to convince his followers?  This is the truth?  Authoritative comparative religion Peter Joseph?  Is that so?  Then why do you run and hide from your movie and fail to address the truth behind your heavy sourcing on Jordan Maxwell and Acharya S?  Or why dont you explain the use of many theosophists and near total lack of primary sources?  In fact, Peter Joseph, is on record praising Jordan Maxwell and claiming Jordan Maxwell was the inspiration for his first film!  Ill will post a complete audio link so you can hear Peter the Liar expose himself his own movie as a Jordan Maxwell tribute.

(video link on the way)

Well first of all, of all the people I met, VERY VERY RARELY does anybody say, “I’m in the movement because of the first movie…………So the idea that this is a recruitment tool, explicitely, is extremely misleading”-Peter Joseph

Peter Joseph has made it clear that the first film is the “core generator of interest till this day for the Zeitgeist Movement”.  He even says the movement was inspired by the films, so why does he lie?  Is it to convince others?  himself, or just his followers?:

Peter Joseph is so out of his mind, he starts comparing his conspiracy theory camp, to that of Alex Jones conspiracy groups.  Because with his camp there is “causality” or rational behind the complex problems and social paradigm, whereas Jones camp believe in a free for all conspiracy theory by puppet masters.  I believe he is just upset with Alex Jones because Peter was exposed as being somebody who “pisses in his pants” when confronted:

Once again Peter Joseph hides behind his companion source guide created by the famously debunked new ager Acharya S:

Ironically, the creator of this companion guide, Acharya S, thinks Peter Joseph should not have named the movement after the film series.  She also explains that Peter joseph and her are still creating Zeitgeist Movie promotional material.

“It is perhaps the most sourced film in history”-Peter Joseph

Peter has never been able to face any critic when confronted with his original sources.  In fact, I questioned Peter Joseph directly on his famously sourced film and he hid from the discussion, throwing Acharya S’s companion guide to support his claims instead of answering for his own researched sources, the theosophical/jordan maxwell inspired film.  When Peter joseph is confronted with his sources, he hides behind Acharya S:

As you can clearly see, when Peter Joseph is confronted about his preliminary sources, he avoids all discussion and will refuse to answer for his sourcing.  In fact, in the Mark Dice interview above, he makes it clear he used quality sources to create his film and recommends people check his source list on his website.  That portion of his site is now blocked by password:  http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/wiki/index.php/Documented_Sources_for_Zeitgeist_Part_One:_The_Greatest_Story_Ever_To.  I no longer have access, but if you do, you will see his zeitgeist source guide equates exactly with my source table, the same sources I confronted him about.

Peter Joseph says he can debate anybody into a fetal position when it comes to Zeitgeist the movie.  Does that come after he says “hehe..you’re cute.  goodbye”??

“What movement are you referring to lady?”-Peter Joseph

Peter Joseph keeps attacking the professor for being a woman, this is obvious.  He muted her credentials and publications, now he simply refers to her as “lady”.  Peter Joseph is upset that this expert in conspiracy theories has called his movement out on its conspiratorial notions.  Much the same way that Zeitgeist members began spreading around the creators of the 60 min segments personal facebook pages.   Why is he upset that this expert and professor has associated the film and the movement?  Even Jacque Fresco does the same thing!  in fact, even Jacque Fresco associates the movement and the movie and even calls for Peter Joseph to disband the Zeitgeist Movement:

He goes on to say the whole segment with the professor and conspiracy expert is “utterly ignorant”.  He might fill this way because Jacque Fresco recently made Peter Joseph feel that way.  I guess since Fresco told everybody how utterly ignorant Peter Joseph is, Peter Joseph felt to share how utterly ignorant this “lady” is.

Peter Joseph then attacks ABC for associating the Zeitgeist Movie and Zeitgeist Movement, “a Documentary Movement”.  This is hilarious to say the least.  It seems as if nobody gets the Zeitgeist Movement except Peter and his followers.  To make things even more amusing, Peter Joseph lays out his conspiracy theory for the whole ABC segment:  The producers intentionally targeted Zeitgeist Movement the week before the debut of his third film because they did not like his films.  It is great to see when ever the mainstream media gets a hold of Zeitgeist they rip them to shreds, so much so, that Zeitgeist must respond and clarify its position every singe time, as it should.

8 responses to Peter Joseph’s Response to “60 Minutes” / Brooklyn Co.Expo [ The Zeitgeist Movement ]

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  1. His intellectual dishonesty pisses me off.

  2. Peter is so full of himself, he wants to take a “moment” to respond (19 moments to a respond) to a 12 minute video while leaving out much of the video, Anything that might present the movement in a bad light got left on Peter’s cutting room floor. He misrepresents the college class project as “news” and whines about it being sensationalist.

    This coming from a person that uses sensationalism with pictures of starving children, doom and gloom and misery to a target audience of 18-24 year old. He hits them right when they first enter the job market with little or no job skills. Many of them are either unemployed or stuck in low paying jobs and Peter turns them into evangelists to promote his movies and join the “movement”. Peter uses the classic David Icke formula: Problem Reaction Resolution. The only problem is the resolution is a fairy tale world were no one will have to work and we can spend our days lying on the beach.

    In Peter’s third film Zeitgeist Moving Forward (you know the one that is supposed to have no connection to conspiracies), we are treated to John McMurtry who wants to sell us his “value structure of economic theory” This “expert” is the same kook who is famous for his 911 conspiracy rantings,

    see: http://www.archive.org/details/mcmurtry – WHY THE FACTS OF 9/11 ARE SUPPRESSED: John McMurtry

    So Zeitgeisters are supposed to see McMurtry as some kind of expert when it comes to economics but when it comes to his 911 conspiracy theories Zeitgeisters are supposed to ignore him, do I have that right?

    Zeitgeist the Movie part 2 is about 911
    Zeitgeist The Movement is not about 911
    but the 1st ever Zeitgeist Media Festival takes place on the 10th anniversary of 911
    What do you think the media is going to be talking about on the 10th anniversary of 911?

    Peter Merola is as transparent as a TV evangelist offering to send you his magic Holy Water. All you have to do is spread his “gospel” and then we’ll all live happily ever after holding hands and singing kumbaya

  3. I have done a number of videos on Youtube criticizing “Zeitgeist: The Movie” and constantly get comments that I don’t know anything about the Zeitgeist Movement. In more recent videos I made the comment my responses are directly to the movie and I don’t care a rat’s ass about the movement or something to that effect. I still get comments by Zetigeisters that I have no right to criticize the movement. Peter Joseph may claim the two are not connected but his cult folliwing begs to differ.

  4. You guys are pathetic.

  5. I say i do love criticism so here my rant. Did u ever think that he founded the movement AFTER he and the film crew FINISHED MAKING the documentary but BEFORE the RELEASE of the doco? its funny u assume this movement is some sort of cult and peter jospeh is the leader well to me its far from that, the movement is just a leaderless activist group which is just trying to promote the RBE and identifying the inadequacy and flawed nature of the current economic paradigm. Frankly none of ur arguments above mean jack when compared to current state of society and environment.
    I also have to state that movement and the docos are not one in the same and the fact the reporter kept on talking about the docos and nt discussing the movement annoyed me franky cause he stated he was gonna do so at the beginning. Ur last section is pointless and looks like cheap shot, but did not avail to any end u make it out that this guy is some sexist off one comment, the fact that i mostly say bro or miss or fella at the end of every sentence or during one doesnt make one sexist. Frankly thats a pathetic attempt. I heard of the movemnt via the 2nd movie and becasue i immmediatly gained significant interest in the VP and RBE i joined so i could discuss this in detail in forums and wat not and meet other like minded ppl. hahaha i also assume the Occupy Movement, Earth 2.0, Michel C Ruppert’s collpse.net, is some cult as well, hahaha ur hilarious. p.s at least he aint David Icke lol

    • Doesn’t matter what order he did it in really, he has a ‘cult’ following nonetheless. I normally disagree with the cult charge but as the group is dwindling in size, it’s getting much more reclusive which is very disturbing.

      PJ is the leader. He calls the shots. He does most of the radio addresses even after he said he would step down from doing them. He’s the one who writes those “Official messages from the zeitgeist movement” videos. The only argument I’ve heard that he’s not is that He says he’s not. No, he is the leader, no matter what he says. If a guy is pissing on the side walk and tell you he’s not, doesn’t matter?

      RBE has been debunked for 90s years. (see video one) It’s pointless reciting it over and over again. TZM thinks RBE is a new idea, it’s not. It’s an idea that’s been around forever just updated with new technology. It also ads architecture and city designs that plays no role whatsoever to the RBE concept, it’s all a huge distraction to the fact that of all the collectivist pitches, it’s the one with the least amount thought (see video 2) The fact that today’s system sucks, is not an argument for the Venus Project because there’s thousands of other societal proposals on the table and it’s the least coherent option on the table.
      1 Why an RBE is ‘impossible’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqUqdbfxhk
      2 There is No Venus Project. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBYDRgoA58

      Stop saying movies aren’t the movement. No one is saying that, it’s just a thought stopping cliché. The movies are the expression of what you advocate and recruiting tool of the movement. Yes, even Z1. Addendum includes criticism of religion, central banking conspiracies and even mentions 911 Truth non-sense. So yes, the movies are a big part of the movement.

      Cults?
      Occupy Movement: no
      Earth 2.0: No.
      Michael Rupert: THE SKY IS FALLING! Yea, there’s a bit of a benign cult following but no, not a cult .
      It’s worth noting Rupert thinks TZM is impossible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBh8noVrVyY

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