The Zeitgeist Movement has now proven itself to be a stoner type of 9/11 conspiracy theory movement that wants to change our present paradigm into Peter Josephs utopia robot paradigm.
“As part of the festival, activists plan a 4:20 protest on Sunday, September 11 at the Vancouver Art Gallery. Go to the 4:20 Smoke and 9/11 Mirrors Flashmob Facebook page for more information.”
I actually think this is a good idea since recently members of the Zeitgeist Movement have been riled up demanding people die in mass plots, or also wanting to destroy dams and infrastructure, others want to burn churchs and banks, presumably with people in them. So it may be a good idea for this terrorist cult to smoke some.
Check out the Zeitgeist page promoting a new movie in support of the controlled demolition conspiracy theory.
http://www.zeitgeistvancouverfestival.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=53
You have to love when the Zeitgeits movement folks keep telling us its not about conspiracy theories and 9/11 “truther” bullshit and then turn around and back something like this.
You know how Zeitgeisters are always trying recruit celebrities to their cause?
https://zeitgeistvancouver.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=2&func=view&catid=66&id=2156
“Back in early 2009, Cliff Faber (coordinator of Zeitgeist Canada) sent a letter to David Suzuki, introducing him to The Zeitgeist Movement, including a Zeitgeist: Addendum DVD and an Orientation Guide booklet. Within 48 hours, Cliff received a disheartening response (quite similar to Noam Chomsky’s).”
“Dear Mr. Faber:
I am returning your material. I only read the first chapter but I disagree so much with it that I do not feel it worth my time. We are at a critical point and science and technology have to be part of the solution, but I do not believe we have the knowledge to create the future your project and I disagree with your dismissal of accumulated knowledge and insights over thousands of years. In many ways, we have become savages that are often thought to be what people once were.
David Suzuki”
Here’s a link to the Noam Chomsky exchange from anticultist’s blog:
http://anticultist.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/noam-chomsky-on-zeitgeist-venus-project/
I wonder what will happen if Bartone and his crew catch the Zeitgeist Movement out bothering people, it would probably blow their buzz:
Oh and Canada is known for failing when it comes to public events already, in Toronto:
http://www.zeitgeist-toronto.com/index.php/index.php/forum?func=view&catid=2&id=118
Fuck the Zeitgeist Movement.
http://i.imgur.com/fFMjR.gif
The expression on my face when I began to realize just how ill equipt psychologically TZM members were when I thought I was going to work with them on purely rational grounds. Wide eyed idealists make great followers, and dangerous radicals.
Peter should never have had a movement like that, but instead an organization that was built to be small and professional, working as a think tank and lobbyist group for like minded organizations, giving them manpower and promotion.
What does TZM even stand for anymore? Why were they not just working for The Venus Project and helped them out? Again keeping it small and professional, giving J&R some help and leverage. Instead it’s like a fucking lord of the flies scenario, where all that is left is beta males and potheads.
I am open to the Idea that lets say for instance TZM and TVP are cultist utopian idealists…. Is the concept of a resource based economy a bad thing…I actually would like to know why its a bad movement…
This whole forum doesnt seem to provide any real facts as to why the concept of a resource based economy is bad…. it just seems to arbitrarily abuse random people from the Zeitgeist movement and The Venus Project.
I myself am genuinly searching for why this movement is a bad thing…. so please help me out
Most of what they advocate is information based on real, factual (most often third party) evidence.
So I am also looking for HOW the information that they provide on the faults of the current monetary, political, environmental status of the world is incorrect or wrong.
In addition to this…if they are WRONG how else do we go about solving these problems – as I have not found alternate solutions to these problems – and if the information is provided is CORRECT (and it is still believed that they are Cultists and Profit Seekers) how would ‘you’ go about implementing a resource based economy?
I am genuinely in search of answers – not trying to argue with anyone directly… just to me resource based economy seems like a good idea and the evidence against the monetary system is stacking up….
Thanks for any replies – really
I used to be just like you. I saw Addendum and thought it sounded like a scam, so I looked up what the debunkers had to say. It turns out they have nothing to say. It’s the same rhetoric over and over. Honestly I think these people must be trolls or something with the way they keep repeating the same healthy one-liners. You, for example, are interested in finding a solution to the world’s problems, not debunking the movement and calling it a day. This is rational thinking, and I would assume most people should think this way if they were honestly evaluating the information. So yeah, these guys seem to be doing this stuff out of boredom.
However it’s actually from reading posts like these and seeing how much misinformation these guys are spreading that made me finally take the deep breath and join the movement. My advice to you is to stop listening to the debunkers and the Zeitgeisters altogether, just look up the information for yourself and make your own conclusion.
“I looked up what the debunkers had to say. It turns out they have nothing to say. It’s the same rhetoric over and over. ”
If you think that, you’re just sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring them:
http://mises.org/daily/4636
and if you’re allergic to reading:
Spcificly addressing TZM/TVP:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxbUkVhpaYg&w=560&h=315
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck3J7nhCZ_4&w=420&h=315
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASaxjJAiAPo&w=420&h=315
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqiN_NOVE9w&w=420&h=315
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LAmjTUvioI&w=420&h=315
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaEho-tRGA&w=420&h=315
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VfYPJX4KNY&w=560&h=315
How economies without money, exchange, and private property is impossible:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqUqdbfxhk&w=560&h=315
Technological Unemployment is bullshit:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPP4Ar6I5II&w=420&h=315
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ7FIDM-oyU&w=420&h=315
” My advice to you is to stop listening to the debunkers and the Zeitgeisters altogether, just look up the information for yourself and make your own conclusion.”
When you start ignoring critical views you become an ignorant zombie or susceptible to cult mentality. This is what’s known as milieu control, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milieu_control
Hi there, the big problem of our society is that we all think we are right, but discussing about what it’s good or bad, instead of thinking solutions, it’s just a waste of time. The zeitgeist movement is nothing but a train of thought, and I think the end is what we all want. A better way of life living, no violence, less repetitive work, more equality… that’s it. Peace.
Hi member of TZM here. Apparently you’re in fact incorrect. I’m really a terrorist who wants violence, repetitive work, more inequality, and a evil leader to watch over us! Peter Fresco!