Peter Joseph Grilled By Journalist on Russia Today Sept 14th 11   30 comments

Journalist Lauren Lyster could barely contain her laughter.  You can tell as the interview progressed, Peter slowly came to the realization that Lauren was not going to playing nice and  throw softball questions.  It took little time before Peter Joseph was backed up into a corner, going off on tirades about anything that came to mind, just tossing out random sentences.  The whole time, Peter Joseph ranted about whatever came to mind, totally avoiding any questions asked.   A small group of remaining Zeitgeist Members are spreading the interview like it was a success, I am surprised Peter Joseph chose to publish this on the official TZM youtube channel and as of yet has published near nothing on the Zeitgeist Media Festival. (RT AMERICA YOUTUBE FOR NEUTRAL COMMENTING) or watch my version with captions:

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  1. There’s been a fair amount of pwnage of TZM going on in the comment section of the RT America version of this video.

    We have the usual crap from the Zeitgeisters but they are definitely struggling.

  2. Maybe he’s operating on the theory that any publicity is good publicity. It’s always sad when someone doen’t realize their fifteen minutes are over.

  3. I do NOT want to start a conspiracy but I think it’s time we start questioning who is funding Peter Merola’s crusade.

    His flights over to London and Venezuela, his cross country move, renting out the Music Box and bringing in 14(?) acts, his rentals for his Town Hall Meetings. When he shot his movies there were expenses for studio shots with his green screen, and the camera equipment. All this stuff has to be paid for somehow.

    It sure as hell isn’t being paid for by sales of $5 DVDs and ticket sales.

    Either he is in debt up to his neck, or he is getting funding from some outside source.

    • I heard he works for the evil propaganda machine known as the media in LA. I’d lol if he turned out to be working for PJTV xD

    • Online donations by Z-members (aka “a bunch of poor people”) through Peter’s website. Given they don’t have jobs or expect to work in the future, it pays to keep him employed.

  4. Wow, you guys clearly have no interest of understanding the ideas promoted by The Zeitgeist Movement.

    • I guess you must be a True Believer™. You must be so indoctrinated that the possibility of someone understanding Zeitgeist and rejecting it is not even a possibility that enters your brain. The fact that you don’t even acknowledge that possibility either means you are either very ignorant and/or arrogant.

  5. This actually makes sense to me…. Peter joseph answered the questions pretty well I think..

  6. I updated the video above with captions.

  7. thank goodness for the captions. wouldn’t have seemed so horrid without them.

  8. haha this is so lame and childish… Just from your writingstyle alone I can tell you are very uneducated. I mean what kind of smart person would try to disprove somebodys thoughts and ideas by saying “peter joseph is GRILLED by a journalist of RT”…. That statement is your OPINION! based on silly captions that again only try to make fun of Peter Joseph. Not one caption has constructively explained why the ideas of TZM/TVP are false…. The only time you tried to disprove one of the things peter mentioned, is when you showed your own statistics about the employment in America. You show that 91% of the americans worked in the PRIVATE sector… But the funny thing is peter didnt talk about the people who worked in the private sector, but the people who work in the SERVICE sector. Thats a whole different thing my friend. This one example just shows how one sided you look at things, without an open mind. I dont even have to disprove the other “captions” because they are even more sillier. Full of insults and mockery and without real custructive criticism about the ideas of a RBE.

    Despite te fact that you dont know much about arguments and fallacies, it;s also very obvious to me how ignorant you are about the corrupt world you live in. Do some research, read some books like “creature of jekyll island” or Cancerstage Of Capitalism. Or if thats to timeconsuming watch the documentary “The Money Masters”… If you would know this information i bet you wouldnt be so anti-zeitgeist anymore. The Only thing zeitgeist promotes is a system WITHOUT money and a possible better way to manage our society. If you would know how fundamentally corrupt our current monetary system is, you wouldnt give shit to ANY proposed system/movement that wants too get rid of money, but instead approach it with an open mind because you know it cant get any worse than this. You;re american right? About exactly what do you think the american civil war was all about? MONEY!!! And the banking monopoly the European/British bankers had on American society/colony….

    And the fact that Jacque Fresco said all those things about TZM also doesnt prove anything… It only proves that Jacque Fresco has a big ego….

    Have a nice day, and please try to educate yourself…

    PS. Before you are going to insult me with “cultboy”, “conspiracy asshole” and what have you….. it really doesnt bother me. Because I know very well what my thoughts are about certain subjects, and have put a great deal of time to arrive at these thoughts. I have read countless of books and watched countless of documentaries. TZM is in my opinion one of ideas that could POSSIBLY work (not for certain)…. so I approach it with an OPEN MIND. It’s obvious that TZM and TVP have good intentions and only try to create critical mass. Im sure they also have no idea where these movements might be heading to, but if you look at the current world today you will soon realize SOMEBODY HAS TO STAND UP, and I just glad somebody did….

    To know what true values and open minds really are, you should watch the documentary with Richard Feyman, The Pleasure Of Finding Things Out. Richard Feynman was one of the most inspirational human beings that lived on this earth the last century. He is a Nobel Prize winner in physics and was an absolute genius.

    • “peter joseph is GRILLED by a journalist of RT”…. That statement is your OPINION!
      Yea, and? Are we not allowed to have opinions grounded in reality?

      “Not one caption has constructively explained why the ideas of TZM/TVP are false….”
      I’m not sure that’s the point of this site. There’s other sites and articles debunking the RBE.

      “Do some research, read some books like “creature of jekyll island”
      A conspiracy theory book based in the antisemetic Fed conspiracy? As bad as the Fed is, it wasn’t a evil conspiracy, it’s formation was quite public.

      “…or Cancerstage Of Capitalism.”
      A fringe book written by a Marxist that spends most of his time promoting the myth that 9/11 was an inside job? I’ll read something else by someone who isn’t a total lunatic, tyvm.

      “Or if thats to timeconsuming watch the documentary “The Money Masters”… If you would know this information i bet you wouldnt be so anti-zeitgeist anymore.”
      DA EVIL JOOOOS HAVE ALL THE MONIES! No thanks, I prefer to watch good movies not antisemetic conspiracy theories. Also it’s a bit of a non-sequitur. How does fiat money being bad mean we need an RBE?

      .” If you would know how fundamentally corrupt our current monetary system is, you wouldnt give shit to ANY proposed system/movement that wants too get rid of money, but instead approach it with an open mind because you know it cant get any worse than this.”
      Political corruption -> support abolition of money. Does not follow.

      “About exactly what do you think the american civil war was all about? MONEY!!! And the banking monopoly the European/British bankers had on American society/colony….”
      No, it was about states rights on slavery and secession and preserving the union.

      “Before you are going to insult me with “cultboy”, “conspiracy asshole” and what have you….. it really doesnt bother me. Because I know very well what my thoughts are about certain subjects, and have put a great deal of time to arrive at these thoughts.”
      Conspiracy theorists are idiots.

      “I have read countless of books and watched countless of documentaries. TZM is in my opinion one of ideas that could POSSIBLY work (not for certain)…. so I approach it with an OPEN MIND.”
      You’re a good example of the old saying “If you open your mind to much, your brain will fall out”

      P.S. DA MACHEENS TOOK ERR JERB!

    • Yeah, promoting a book by someone [G.Edward Griffin] that disagrees with the Zeitgeist Movement is funny, also..

      “To know what true values and open minds really are, you should watch the documentary with Richard Feyman, The Pleasure Of Finding Things Out. Richard Feynman was one of the most inspirational human beings that lived on this earth the last century. He is a Nobel Prize winner in physics and was an absolute genius.”

      I hate to break it to you, but, well, actually:

    • Peter was asked again and again for a solution and the only thing he did was run around and avoid the question and he didn’t have a single answer for a transition. He had no answers and the reporter was practically laughing in his face. Peter was rambling on off topic because he thinks he is a super guru, waving his hands about trying to convince his followers he makes sense when he was dodging every bullet that woman thru at him, scared shitless. The ironic part, is that he posted this like if he did a good job, when he was really ridiculed.

      The service sector is EVERYBODY outside of the manufacturing sector and the agriculture/mining etc sector. The richer the nation, the more likely the economy will be a SERVICE INDUSTRY. This does not mean 96% of people work as secretaries or other service industry like Peter Joseph is trying to imply, rather, it is a broad spectrum of private business and enterprise. My example of the private industry reflects how America is a private based economy, owned by the people not ran by a state. We are a free nation, and the idea that 96% are in the service “sector”, does not mean we are in the service “industry”.

      Peters concept of Technological Unemployment is false and misleading. In the first place, I gave huge evidence demonstrating that the global employment rate is actually 96%. So Peter Josephs claim that soon everybody will be unemployed because of technology is misleading. In fact, the whole premise that we are looking at global unemployment is misleading. His theory is a conspiracy theory and not grounded in reality.

      In regards to education levels, I would advise you to google: “ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT DEMOGRAPHICS” so you can see that the Zeitgeist Movement is a home based unemployed and uneducated childless group of kids. This is statistically fact. Most of these Zeitgeists live in their moms basement and have no job after having dropped out of some college. You can assume I am uneducated, that is fine with me, so then you would be shocked if I am actually a graduate of a top Texas University would you not? Its funny stuff to me really.

      Jacque Fresco saying all those “things” proves Peter Joseph has no solution. Peters mentor Jacque Fresco has exposed in his own words that Peter Joseph has no answers, so the media is very relevant considering Peter could not answer questions regarding a solution and transition.

      Because I know very well what my thoughts are about certain subjects, and have put a great deal of time to arrive at these thoughts. I have read countless of books and watched countless of documentaries. TZM is in my opinion one of ideas that could POSSIBLY work (not for certain)…. so I approach it with an OPEN MIND.

      Since you have studied this concept as you say, can you show me ONE, JUST ONE, scholarly peer reviewed article describing the validity of the Resource Based Economy concept as defined by Peter Joseph and Jacque Fresco? Can you give me the name of one published scholar or scientist in any language on the face of the earth that has endorsed this concept of RBE? Because until then, i would suggest you stop getting “educated” off of youtube videos and read something that is actually of any scholarly value.

      You’re mad because you do not want anybody to have a voice against TZM and Peter Joseph. Just like the Destini cults and others, when the leader is attacked you get upset. Look I like football, but I dont care if the commissioner or coach of my favorite team is attacked on youtube. Why would I care? You need to man up and realize Peter Joseph is your God and Science is your new Spirituality and stop worrying about ADD Peter getting slammed by our clandestine operation which requise considerable operational, legal, budgetary and policy coordination, much of which is performed by infamous paid special ops agents (ike myself and others, at least according to Peter Joseph..) who specialize in intelligence collection operations, counterintelligence activities and covert action programs.

  9. “technological unemployment” is used by people that have no understanding of economics. In the very first chapter of Adam Smith’s book The Wealth of Nations written waaaaaaay back in 1776, you’ll find people complaining about “technological unemployment”

    Here’s an excerpt from an article that sums it up:
    “So, already, alas, in Adam Smith’s time, machinery had thrown from 240 to 4,800 pin-makers out of work for every one it kept. In the pin-making indus­try there was already, if machines merely throw men out of jobs, 99.98 per cent unemployment. Could things be blacker?”

    The Curse of Machinery – http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-curse-of-machinery/

    If you read the article you’ll even read about the Technocrats using the argument back in the 1930s when Jacque Fresco joined them. Which means Jacque has been complaining about “technological unemployment” for atleast the last 80 years.

    It’s an argument the uneducated keep bringing up because they have no understanding of what drives job creation The reason “technological unemployment” hasn’t put everyone out of work permanently is a combination of the concept of “creative destruction” + entrepreneurship that thrives in free markets under capitalism.

  10. Funny James.. RT seems to still have the feature on their front page! I wonder if they want to douche on them so bad why are they still promoting them?

    Whats the real reason you have so much beef with TZM and TVP? Man to Man, fuck the drama and posturing I am actually curious for real. I mean, if you think it’s a shitty idea and dangerous then that is a stance that would be worth elaborating on, it seems a lot of what you do is just hurl insults from the peanut gallery, but you have a serious philosophically sound reason why then since were both adults I can accept it because everybody has a right to say what they want about things they are passionate about, positively and negatively.

    Straight up, whats the primary issue why you feel so passionately about this?

    • If this was my only exposure to TZM, I’d run away screaming. He sounds like a creationist when they are asked for evidence FOR creationism. They have no evidence, so they always make bad arguments AGAINST evolution. That’s what Peter Joseph did. She asked what their solution is, he went into what the problem is. She grilled him to the point where he gave a vague answer. Peter Joseph is Dr. Kent Hovind without the phony ph.D and Jebus.

  11. Roxanne Meadows gets grilled ?

    • RT is ran by the Russian government, particularly by the Единая Россия (United Russian Party.) They are turning against TZM/TVP because they sound a lot like their political rivals back in Russia КПРФ (Communist Party of the Russian Federation.)

      I always laugh when TZM/TVP jocks RussiaToday, a propaghanda arm of the Russian Government, while at the same time accuse networks like CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, ABC…etc. of being propaganda arms of “the system”

  12. Nobody’s mentioned this yet, so I thought I’d just say that the RT interviewer is HOT. ;)

  13. Watching these and other videos I’ve noticed that none of the people fronting TZM or TVP ever seem to do much of one very simple, human thing…

    SMILE. :D

    Great site, by the way! Let’s continue to expose these guys as the idiots they really are.

  14. She’ll be interviewing him again, I can’t wait:

    http://www.facebook.com/tzmglobal/posts/279215445446875

  15. There is more creative destruction happening than entreprenuership, something Mr. Smith never saw coming. Technological unemployment is inevitable, stop denying it free market freaks.

    • I lol’d.

    • benandreas369,

      Great another self appointed “expert” that self publishes his own books doing a self promotion book tour on TVO….

      Let’s follow your video down the rabbit hole, apply some logic, and see where it goes…..

      If
      you want to point to Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee’s $3.99 Kindle 98 page mini-book as evidence for your argument,
      then
      you are also arguing for their solutions

      http://www.amazon.com/Race-Against-Machine-Accelerating-Productivity/product-reviews/0984725113/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

      The authors answer this question in CHAPTER 4. WHAT IS TO BE DONE? PRESCRIPTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS

      Their recommendations are:
      * Invest more in education. Pay teachers more money. Make teachers more accountable by paying them for performance, not tenure.
      * Increase the H1B program. Bring more skilled workers in here from overseas, the idea being that skilled workers create synergies when they work with each other.
      * Teach entrepreneurship broadly as a necessary life-skill, not just in elite business schools.
      * Invest in more infrastructure, improving highways and communications.
      * Increase government spending on basic research in the health and sciences.
      * Lower taxes and regulations on business, so as to increase their incentives to hire.
      * Make labor cheaper by eliminating social security taxes. Nationalize healthcare so that companies don’t have to pay for it.
      * Reform the patent system so that it is easier to file patents.

      His solutions obviously aren’t cheerleading for a free market. Just the opposite.

      He offers a nice mix of a lot more government spending.

      More government education?
      More government research?
      Free government healthcare?
      More government infrastructure?

      So we have a much enlarged government providing more and more services.
      While at the same time reducing the tax burden that companies have to pay the government.
      So the tax burden falls on……. the higher paid teachers and the skilled workers?

      Seriously?

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