The shit just went down and it was done by Anonymous. To learn more about Operation Ghostbusters, you can follow them on facebook, twitter and on their blog site.
In case you missed it since the website is back up, this is what it said when it was taken down:
HAHAHAHA!!!! A big shout out to all the cult members who thought ANONYMOUS was on their side, sorry but cults get no love!!!
Here’s an article about them with some updates:
http://www.gulli.com/news/17549-operation-ghostbusters-anonymous-gegen-zeitgeist-bewegung-update-2-2011-11-26
more jackass who have no idea what zeitgeist is even about talking shit -.- you guys are all morons, people fighting for the same shit fighting each other. you guys just prove how little you know or care about things you even fight for. anonymous itself is killing the occupy movement and seriously if you want to see anything advance… remove yourself from the scene
U MAD, BRO?
You are just sad.
You have no clue what Zeitgeist is about.
You do not understand, what Zeitgeist ist trying to change..
And you don’t even want to know what it is.
You are just like the American’s, hating on for example communism, they never knew what communism.
I think it is sad, that trolls like you damage the whole image of Anonymous by your actions.
Anonymous seemed like such a great oppertunity for the Internet and the People.
And know morons like you fuck all the effort some people put into it up, by doing exactly that what you criticize about others!
Anonymous is against censorship, I don’t know, if you knew that.
Even though you are taking a Webpage down, which purpose it is to inform yourself about the Zeitgeist movement.
Why can’t you people let inform themselves?
Maybe they can understand, what you don’t understand.
Some serious Anonymous Cells should just hack your Computers to kind of fix the Imagedamage you’ve done.
And before you start flaming and trolling, think about what I’ve told you.
Thank you, Greetz from Germany.
Zeitgeist Censors, thats what it is famous for. I believe to land a good blow against the repressive cult, resetting their movies files would be nice. They could always upload them again, just like the people who the cult censors are forced to do. Besides, The zeitgeist films are everywhere for people to see, peter joseph sells them himself so deleting the channel or films would merely give the zeitgeist movement a taste of their own DMCA filing medicine.
American’s lol.
Zeitgeist is not a repressive cult and there is no reason for you to be bad mouthing it. it only seeks to change a broken system a system which promotes violence and creates a grievous injustice in the management in our planets resources. anonymous has lost all of my respect for they are fighting against people who seek to bring down the very system they are fighting against. it seems to me as though anonymous has gotten power hungry and dose not like the fact that there is another organization speaking out against the system and that they are brave enough to show there faces. it seems foolish to me that we should fight among ourselves when we all want essentially the same thing. quality of life for every leaving thing on this planet and not just the privileged few who can afford it. that is our end goal right for both anonymous and zeitgeist for if not what would be the point supporting ether organization
No reason ? Bitch please.
The only broken system it’s trying to change is that Merola and Fresco want attention and it’s not giving them enough.
I just recently discovered Zeitgeist and I have a lot of research yet to do, but my first impression is they have great ideas, revolutionary really, and I for one am curious to see what they could do given the opportunity to advance their agenda (at least what I interpret to be their agenda) unimpeded. And to be honest I can’t imagine anyone, other than the extremely wealthy or privileged, who would want to see them halted or forced to struggle beyond the massive hurdles that already lie before them. What’s wrong with wanting to make the world a better place for everyone in it?
I am not extremely wealthy, but I am against TZM, mostly for personal reasons.
I have seen the negative effects of what TZM can do to an individual. I watched as a friend of mine grew obsessed with those movies. At first I thought I’d just let it be, but it came to a point where I could not tolerate it anymore. This was in early 2011, and at that time I had just learned that it had become a full-blown movement, although I really did not look into it. I have always hated people who pull others down for being better off. So I told my friend (who by this time had gone so far that he was already posting anti-America propaganda on his facebook profile along with links to Peter Joseph’s movies and interviews and some truththeory and ancient astronaut links) that TZM is most probably a scam that wants donations and that he was making a fool of himself by following this neo-communist (that’s what I thought of it at that time) movement and that he was disgracing his own country by suggesting that we are slaves to a more powerful nation and posting it on facebook for all to see. Anyway, he stopped posting those links,but our friendship was never the same again and I eventually lost contact with him when he went out of town to work. A few months passed and one day I just found myself googling zeitgeist movement and found blogs like this. And I wasn’t surprised when I read stuff about donation wars and being called a cult. When I told my friend that they are hypocrites who say they hate money but really want donations, I did not really know for sure, but after looking into it, I guess I was right after all.
TZM isn’t really about making the world a better place. TZM reminds me of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. Except the Khmer Rouge understood that people are not going to be convinced through merely “educating” them. Just think what would happen if TZM began to realize this and decided to do something about it. I for one do not want to find out.
That’s a lot to take in and respond to but I’d like to give it a shot.
First of all, from what little I’ve seen Zeitgeist’s aren’t pulling anyone down for being better off. They are simply pointing out the indisputable fact that out current system is broken. Not just out monetary system or our system of government but everything. Our education system, for instance, does not achieve to elevate each individual student to his or her highest potential, but rather caps it in order to maintain the status quo. As a public school graduate I can attest to that. I even recall a teacher specifically telling my class that we needed to pay attention to a particular lesson because we would need that information when we left school to go to work in the construction field. This was a standard math class, not shop or something specializing in the building industry.
If you take a couple of hours to watch the documentary “The Cartel” you will find yourself further enlightened on just how busted that system is.
Another broken system is our military. We’ve been led to believe that every drop of American blood spilled on foreign soil for was to preserve democracy. However, looking at the mountain of evidence (there exists plenty of it outside of these films, although I feel these are thus far the most well organized and informational I’ve seen to date) that this just isn’t the case. I had a friend in Iraq a few years ago who made it abundantly clear to me that democracy had nothing to do with our occupation when they gave her an automatic rifle and orders to guard an oil pipeline. Though if you need something closer to home one has to look no further than our “War on Drugs” to see that conflict is generated in order to forward an agenda that has nothing to do with it’s stated cause.
Regarding your friend, my initial reaction is sorrow for your loss. It’s unfortunate when friends grow apart. However, I’m also tempted to defend his anti-American sentiment, but unfortunately I don’t know what he said exactly and I do consider myself a patriot, not because I believe that we are right, but because we have the ability to intervene via the political process thus we hold the power to change things as we deem necessary, theoretically speaking, anyway. I would disagree with the comment that we are slaves to another “nation”. That doesn’t mean I disagree with the notion that we are slaves. We are born into debt, we live our entire lives in debt and we die in debt. Most of us work a job we don’t like, for longer hours than we wish, for less money than we deserve. If that isn’t a form of slavery, I don’t know what is. Being forced to subject yourself to unpleasant conditions for the sake of turning a profit for someone else (and hopefully, though not typically these days, etching out enough to satisfy your basic needs) is not freedom, it’s servitude.Case in point: if you buy a piece of land, pay for it in full, come tax season you still have to pay more money. Think about that for just a second. You have to pay for what you already fully own. Again, that isn’t freedom.
Regarding the cult comment, I’ll reiterate that I’m not yet educated enough on TZM to defend it fervently, but consider that the Christian religion was once a cult to the authorities at the time of it’s birth and look at how it’s regarded today.
The money comment is probably what I find most perplexing. Knowing that we live in a money-oriented society, it’s not hard to imagine that everyone needs it for everything so I don’t really understand why you think a fledgling movement would, or could be excluded from that reality.
I’m not saying that I fully believe everything TZM claims to stand for, but I do agree with what I’ve seen so far, which is the reality that in a world as richly abundant in natural resources as ours, coupled with the technological ability we have at our fingertips, there is no logical reason why anyone should starve, let alone tens or hundreds of thousands, for any reason other that sheer desire to do so.
In closing, I’m not saying you should hop on board for the sake of taking the ride, but why not critically analyze the things about it you question and test your theories against logic rather than emotional reaction? If nothing else you learn something new along the way, and I can’t see anything wrong with that.
I didn’t read your wall of text Greg, maybe I will later but if your going to join the lesser of the two evil then join the venus project. Yeah sure TVP is making a multiimillion dollar movie that may never be produced, sure TVP made $100,000 dollars to find a script writer and maybe they will just take the money and never find one but I do know TVP has a decent admin/mod staff there and they allow for a difference of opinion. For instance if I was on TZM TS3 server and did not agree with there RBEM/TZM but maybe had my own things they would label me a troll and ban me (I don’t deny I am a academic troll) however on TVP they accept the fact that I don’t agree with an RBE or TVP (well most of them do) and are ok with me attending there meetings so I can add to my own thing I’m doing which is called a RBE criteria list. So yeah a lot of people may disagree with me on this blog but if you want to go with the lesser of the two evils then go the TVP route, it’s a bit more open but that’s just me. However I don’t consider this a endorsement for TVP nor am I a member as well as I do not support TVP in any way shape or form.
You don’t really have to look hard to see TZM pulling people down for being better off. Saying that they are merely pointing out society’s flaws is just a way of softening it. Besides, its old news, but you don’t see TZM doing anything about it except to talk and make statements about how bad things are. I have yet to see someone from TZM actually point out something positive. I think TZM are also against doing charity or outreach work for some reason. Just a day ago a TZM member posting here was presented with a list of companies that are doing some real work that actually help people (check the latest blog post), but he decided to ignore it and keep on talking about how much he hates money. I think people at TZM really don’t want to see anything good, they are counting on things going bad so they can come out and say “I told you so”. I also think it’s TZM’s own fault if they have not achieved anything. Others have gone through tougher trials and besides, in this day and age, they have all the tools they need. I would at least have some respect for TZM if they actually did some hands-on humanitarian work with that donation money instead of using it for making movies. Speaking of emotional reaction, this is what TZM are counting on, a TZM member even said so himself here on this blog. This is why they use a lot of images of starving children, which I find sick, since they really are doing nothing about it, so those starving children are reduced to mere tools. On money matters, others could probably explain it better than me, but I see nothing wrong with paying taxes and having to work. Others benefit from those taxes too. Maybe some goes into the bank accounts of some corrupt politicians, but still, not all is bad. People do not starve just because of the sheer desire to do so. Things are not really so simple , and the situation is different for each country. It really takes a lot more effort to understand these things. A lot of study is required, and going through TZM materials isn’t really going to teach you anything. But I guess you are free to choose, if you have not already chosen. I’m not really good at turning people away from this wannabe-activist movement. I confess I’m just here to watch it fall, and maybe give it a little push to help it along the way when the opportunity presents itself.
Greg,
The important thing is that you are willing to take a look at TZM from critical stand point. Most followers of the Zeitgeist God Peter Joseph do not, can not, and will not consider any criticism of Peter or the foundation of the Zeitgeist Movement, the Zeitgeist films. The fact that you are here with an open mind leads me to believe that soon enough you will realize on your own what Peter and TZM really is and you yourself will make the educated decision as to wether or not to become a supporter of Peter’s following, the Zeitgeist Movement. I am not here to sway you to not join or support TZM, rather, I want to be sure all data TZM does not want considered IS in fact archived and available for you to preview so you can make an well informed decision.
“And to be honest I can’t imagine anyone, other than the extremely wealthy or privileged, who would want to see them halted or forced to struggle beyond the massive hurdles that already lie before them.”
This is why we get called rich capitalist with mansions, no, I oppose Zeitards because I don’t want communism, and I don’t think I’ve seen any rich people openly oppose it and I don’t think there’s any conspiracy against it, then you have Peter Joseph Merola who tried to propose their world parallel government and more spoke out against it, so much that TZM’s site was hacked, they went from anarcho-communist to parallel communists, yes, they want everything to be common heritage [also advocating no money] as a hierarchy of Zeitards tells the population of the world what their needs and wants are by telling you that’s freedom as they want to control everything, all resources, they have to deal with subjective value:
Many attempts of what they are describing as a RBE has failed time and time again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9WEWcbfnHg&feature=player_detailpage#t=240s
You can’t re-educate people, sorry, once they realize that the blank slate theory is bullshit, more Zeitards are bound to get upset because of their utopia is a utopia, many articles here are documented and show Zeitards fucking losing it. Then we got some guy here telling me that everyone is evil and used Anonymous as an example posing threats to Scientology, some of them as he was giving me a history lesson, but goes under “Anonymous” here and says he’s for burning banks down, not in so many words.
Non-violence my ass:
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/forum/177/tzm-violence-is-the-answer
I really don’t know how this is suppose to get the world to become more sustainable and have better resource management. Now Anonymous looks bad. TZM isn’t healthy for anyone, people need to just leave the shit alone.
“First of all, from what little I’ve seen Zeitgeist’s aren’t pulling anyone down for being better off.”
Yeah they bitch about everything being bad and provide collapse porn.
“Our education system, for instance, does not achieve to elevate each individual student to his or her highest potential”
Bullshit, Douglas Mallette, TZM’s very own scam artist wannabee NASA engineer told Zeitards on ZDAY that schools are now using KhanAcademy.com to make education more fun and elevating, wrong, also, one bad memory in school doesn’t make schools shit, also, I don’t care what dropouts think honestly, the leaders are dropouts btw.
“However, I’m also tempted to defend his anti-American sentiment, but unfortunately I don’t know what he said exactly and I do consider myself a patriot”
TZM won’t like your patriotism.
“we live our entire lives in debt”
Then get out of it.
“Most of us work a job we don’t like”
It’s a good thing we have the monetary system, that’s another thing, they advocate no money but I don’t think they are going to find anyone, not even themselves wanting to build a test city for free unless they plan to use force.
The problem comes with economic calculation problem, impracticality of making society legible, and the fact that TVP/TZM aren’t interested in improving society just their respective groups and egos. They are both in the “awareness” stage and as we saw with KONY 2012, awareness campaigns don’t solve anything but the creator’s empty wallet.
“They are both in the “awareness” stage and as we saw with KONY 2012, awareness campaigns don’t solve anything but the creator’s empty wallet.”
Yeah.. They don’t care about Haiti either.
Isn’t it ironic that drunks love awareness?